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Originally Posted by tonic And we've no assets at all for all that debt? That's shocking so it is. |
Having assets to back up a debt is no good unless you can realise the asset to pay off the debt if the debt is called in.. or do I have to keep giving you lessons on basic economics.
Plus, what assets we have are invariably over priced and the subject of the dream world i.e. people still convinced that the house that some half eejit of a valuer trying to get them to trade up or "release equity" still holds today.. Oh yeah Mary, sure that house is worth 300 grand, have another top up, when the house would now probably realise 180 k in the open market.
Libero's point about whether or not a bank exiting the market will start calling in debts is very important in this current climate.
Last week we had an announcement that the Government was going to pass legislation making it illegal for a bank to initiate court proceedings against banks who started legal action within 12 months of missing a first payment on a mortgage. How will that legislation apply to a bank which has exited the market but which still holds thousands of mortgages within the market ?
In this case, my mortgage is with Halifax, and thankfully I am paying it every month, but, if I stopped paying it for whatever reason, along with the thousands of others who hold Halifax mortgages, then would I expect Halifax not to run to the European Courts to overturn a ban on them pursuing their debts?
They also announced today that while they are staying in the mortgage market here, they will shortly be contacting people who have other "accounts" about their market exit. I am sure this means in the first instance, telling people that they should prepare to move their current accounts to a different bank, but what does it mean if they exit the loan and credit card markets, and start expecting people to settle up. Can they do that ? What effect would that be for people who might well be paying their debts according to monthly schedules, but who wouldn't have the available cash on hand to settle the full amount immediately if it was called in.
This could get very messy