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There is no place in Irish Politics for an economist

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Today our suspicions of Irish politics were confirmed. It is not for the people, by the people. It is f*ck the people, buy the people. Somebody who has a master of economics, and can convey and practice it as a social science should in theory be an ideal politician. But George Lee couldn't stomach even one year of the feudal system of governance.

This country is going down the tube rapidly. There is nothing we can do about it but learn how to live without the government. Because the lunatics are in control of the asylum and we are powerless. Even outside of politics we have less than 10 proper economists. The "economists" that work for the banks or the bank's agents such as the stockbrokers are either incapable or serving the self interests of the elite.

We need to network more with family friends neighbours and prepare for the inevitable. Its all about survival now and being prepared. The real economy outside of government has shrunk nearly 50% since the peak. This is not a recession, it is a collapse. Our fundamentals are worse than Greece, its only a matter of time before we default and become bankrupt. Plan B needs to be seriously discussed now. The clock is ticking.
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I think Lee couldn't hack the ordinary mundane work of a TD its not all making speechs, or creating policies. Not as exciting as working as a high profile journo!
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There is no place in Irish Politics for an economist ?

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Richard Bruton was born in Dublin, and grew up in Dunboyne, County Meath. He is the son of Joseph and Doris Bruton.[1] He was educated at Belvedere College, Clongowes Wood College, University College Dublin and Nuffield College, Oxford.[3] At Oxford he graduated with a MPhil in Economics[3], his thesis being on the subject of Irish public debt.[1] He is a Research Economist by profession,[4] and after university he worked at the Economic and Social Research Institute.
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FitzGerald was educated at the Jesuit Belvedere College and University College Dublin (UCD), from which he graduated with a B.A. degree in 1946, later returning to complete a Ph.D. which he obtained in 1968. He was deeply interested in the politics of the Spanish Civil War and World War II. A bright student who counted among his contemporaries in UCD his future political rival, Charles Haughey, who also knew Joan O'Farrell (a Liverpool-born daughter of a British army officer, Richard O'Farrell) a fellow student, whom Garret Fitzgerald would go on to marry in 1947.
Following his university education he found employment with Aer Lingus, the state airline of Ireland, in 1947 and became an authority on the strategic economic planning of transport. During this time he wrote many newspaper articles and was encouraged to write on National Accounts and economics by the Features Editor in The Irish Times. He remained in Aer Lingus until 1959, when after undertaking a study of the economics of Irish Industry in Trinity College, Dublin, he became a lecturer in economics at UCD.
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Bruton's economic credentials are inparalled in the Dáil. Stupid thread.
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2 economists that were TDs in Irish history? Is that the best you can do? And you call this a stupid thread? Not one minister for finance in the history of Ireland was an economist. Out of the 19,000 civil servants responsible for running the country only 3 have a Phd in economics.

As I said its one thing being an economist but being an economist that knows it as a social science and as a form of psychology is another thing entirely. Bruton and Fitzgerald fail on this count.
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Other people who left safe seats in Dail Eireann to develop a proper career and stop wasting their time in the nonsense that passes for Irish politics.

Jim White, FG, Donegal South-West, Hotelier
Jim Glennon, FF; Dublin North, Businessman and Rugby Pundit
George Bermingham, FG, Dublin North-Central, Judge
Pat McCartan, WP/Labour, Dublin North-East, Judge
Ivan Yates, FG, Wexford, Bookmaker and Radio Host.

Lee is in interesting company.
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Today our suspicions of Irish politics were confirmed. It is not for the people, by the people. It is f*ck the people, buy the people. Somebody who has a master of economics, and can convey and practice it as a social science should in theory be an ideal politician. But George Lee couldn't stomach even one year of the feudal system of governance.
Your thread title should be George Lee f*cks the people (especially those in Dublin South)
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Name an economist in this country past or present who who set up a business that employed 20 or more people. Economists are like politicians, utterly useless and only contribution is of an academic intellectual nature to provide data that may or may not be of help in deciding in what direction capital could be expended to develop the economy. Nearly 90 years ago we started out without an arse in our trousers and we came a long way eventually. We have to start again but this time not only do we have an arse in our trousers we are wearing quality clothes that just need a bit of drycleaning.

Really, one enterprising person right now is worth more than 100, 000 economists !!
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There is no place in Irish politics for economists who think the rest of us should use their sh1te for toothpaste because they are economists.
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Nearly 90 years ago we started out without an arse in our trousers and we came a long way eventually. We have to start again but this time not only do we have an arse in our trousers we are wearing quality clothes that just need a bit of drycleaning.
So you're saying it took the Irish State 90 years to make it possible for everyone to get dressed properly.

Wow! Talk about achievement!

With such rapid progress we should all have two shoes in another five decades or so. I can hardly wait!
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