Sick days - Why are we so sick / lazy

hammer · #**121** (**permalink**) 7th February 2010

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Originally Posted by gatsbygirl20

Post totally misunderstood. Teachers do not take "excessive" sick days. Because of the impossibility of leaving large groups of teenagers unsupervised, there is a "the show must go on" attitude among teachers, who feel they must show up at all costs.

But, yes, "caring" employers, who win the loyalty and respect of their workforce, will have less absenteeism, whether they are in the public or private sector.

Your "go slow" (sic) point is a separate issue, and an example of how arguments against the PS tend to jump their sprockets.

Even if it were found that no teacher in the history of the profession had ever taken sick leave, the argument would leap to...benchmarking...what about the 3 months holidays....I knew a teacher who did no work...etc etc

Despite the PS paycuts, raking over the pay and conditions of PS workers, and spreading negative anecdotes about them has become a lazy, self-indulgent habit which probably brings its own comfort in these hard times. But people need to stop picking that sore. They are definitely making at least one PS worker pretty sick, which can't be good for "competitiveness", going forward......

Apologies, good post.

Well also, maybe get your PS union officials and some of you PS workers to stop blaming the private sector for all our ills

gatsbygirl20 · #**122** (**permalink**) 7th February 2010

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Originally Posted by hammer

Apologies, good post.

Well also, maybe get your PS union officials and some of you PS workers to stop blaming the private sector for all our ills

Thank you. I personally do not automatically "blame the private sector", if by private sector you mean ordinary workers or struggling owners of small businesses. You make the important point on another thread that many small business owners are left without any state support. I have family members facing that. PS workers are very aware of the terrible hits being taken out there, (This PS worker is also aware of private sector workers who have taken no hit, some of these in my own family also)

But we naturally feel beleaguered and under siege as attack follows attack. We thought that having thrown the baying mob the chunk of red meat represented by deep wage cuts, the beast might have lain down. But we are bracing ourselves for yet more cuts, and "reforms", which, you can be sure, once conceded , will not be the right reforms, or enough reforms. It will be like the pay cuts all over again.

maxthedog · #**123** (**permalink**) 8th February 2010

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Originally Posted by maxthedog

If what you say is the truth, there is no libel, so you can relax.

I look forward to hearing all the details of this story and how you have dealt / intend to deal with this neglect of your daughter's education.

As promised

The maths teacher is still missing, she told the girls she was taking a holiday and that was 3 weeks ago.

the Irish teacher was a no show, though she was spotted Sunday in a shopping centre.

The CPSE teacher also on the missing list, again spotted Sunday by some of the classmates,

So there you have it a random day, three teachers from third year class missing.

hammer · #**124** (**permalink**) 9th February 2010

Rural gardai taking twice as many sick days as city officers - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

I`m confused. I would have thought Dublin with its pressures would have had more sick days on average.

uriah · #**125** (**permalink**) 9th February 2010

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Originally Posted by uriah

As promised

The maths teacher is still missing, she told the girls she was taking a holiday and that was 3 weeks ago.

the Irish teacher was a no show, though she was spotted Sunday in a shopping centre.

The CPSE teacher also on the missing list, again spotted Sunday by some of the classmates,

So there you have it a random day, three teachers from third year class missing.

Were/Are there substitute teachers in the class?
Have you complained?

maxthedog · #**126** (**permalink**) 9th February 2010

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Originally Posted by maxthedog

Were/Are there substitute teachers in the class?
Have you complained?

Maths and Irish teachers still missing.

The substitute teachers are old/ retired .

So no experiance for young teachers there.

Have I complained?

No, these people are part of the most dangerous union in the world, a couple of snide remarks to my 15 year old daughter, and she could have a nasty time of it.

I will do what most parents do, suck it up.

uriah · #**127** (**permalink**) 9th February 2010

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Originally Posted by uriah

Maths and Irish teachers still missing.

The substitute teachers are old/ retired .

So no experiance for young teachers there.

Have I complained?

No, these people are part of the most dangerous union in the world, a couple of snide remarks to my 15 year old daughter, and she could have a nasty time of it.

I will do what most parents do, suck it up.

So your daughter is being taught by experienced, qualified teachers (surely more important from your point of view than giving young teachers experience)
Let us not be ageist here. And you really have no idea why these teachers are/were absent. Their absence is probably perfectly legitimate.

A complaint from a pupil/parent to the Board of management /DES has nothing to do with the union and the union has nothing to do with you.
Your relationship is with the BOM and the DES, not the union.

How do you expect anything to change if nobody complains? Surely you owe your daughter that much if you think she is being wronged?

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