Sydney/Australia goes without saying. Singapore is a thriving place, Shanghai I don't konw too much about. But in either of these Asian Metroples who will find a different type of immigration compared to the mass immigration in the West-more regional, or internal even. But try and immigrate their-how easy is that, I wonder.

Can't wait to hear your definition of "multicultural" for starters.

The Brixton and Bradford riots not ringing any bells? Granted these manifestations of the simmering tinderbox that is race relations in the U.K. don't kick off all that often.Natives,however, are dealing with the tensions by simpy moving on and away from areas of mass immigration.Fact.

A study commissioned by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister and called Development of a Migration Model found that the more ethnic minorities there were in an area, the more likely people were to move out. It concluded: “The higher proportion of out-migration from places with the greater presence of non-white people conforms to the much reported push factor as white flight.” This is mere fact.Immigration breeds more segregation.I don't know anyone who desires that.Trevor Phillips, head of the UK Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, and Mike Poulsen, an Australian academic, have claimed that White Britons and non-white Britons are becoming more segregated than ever.

Bollox.

Well,we've stepped on quite the landline here,haven't we.
For starters I would love to hear your expose on the economic theory that multi ethnic cities,by virtue of this fact alone,are more industious and succesful.We would all love to hear the economic mechanics of that notion fleshed out.

The inconvenient truth however is that minorites are twices as likely to be unemployed,Oh dear.This little nugget from the TUC (Trade Union Congress) btw.(left wing enough for you?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4655193.stm

Im not sure how these figures marry with your notion of a multi-ethnic industrial powerhouse theory but sure,give it a go.


Well,officially sanctioned bodies haven't been doing a wonderful job of properly representing data at the mo (IPCC) and given the highly politicised nature of these things I think I'll stick with my own actual experience thank you kindly.

White flight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That is what ethnic cleansing is about - population displacement/replacement !

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Hold on. Has someone stepped on the landline. I can't hear you, you'll have to speak up.

Fun and all as it is to watch you drift away from properly-sourced facts and figures on the good ship Conspiracy Theory, waving a white flag and shouting "Bollocks!", there are a couple of quick points I'll make in response to your bizarre post.

Firstly, to suggest that riots in Brixton and Bradford close to thirty and ten years ago respectively are representative of everyday life for the vast majority of people in Britain is just idiotic. You're falling into the same trap as you did above by taking a couple of very specific incidents (eg. your fourteen years in London) and extrapolating from them to suggest that these are universal experiences. They're just not.

Talking about "the simmering tinderbox that is race relations in the U.K" is hysterical and overblown nonsense. One in ten children in Britain is mixed-race, as is one in four primary-school kids in London. There are more mixed-race people in Britain now than there are Black Caribbeans, Black Africans, Chinese or Bangladeshis. Those families presumably mange to get on well enough. It's instructive that the best examples you can give of just how bad ethnic tensions are in Britain today is to drag up riots from 1981 and 2001. At that rate we can expect another one in 2021. Thank God you left in time.

And I worry a little about your literacy. Very often you see things that aren't there. If you can show me where I said "that multi ethnic cities,by virtue of this fact alone,are more industious and succesful", I'll buy you a comic. There are multi-ethnic success stories and disasters, there are mono-ethnic success stories and disasters.

The point that I've made over and over and over again is that if multiculturalism and multi-ethnicity has such a damaging effect on society as countless posters here maintain, then surely such places should ALL be struggling. Instead, on every list that measures quality-of-life, human development etc the higher reaches of the lists are dominated by multi-ethnic and multicultural places. It's not that they're just getting by all right, it's that they're among the best places to live in the world.

It's bizarre the lengths that people will go to to completely rubbish these straightforward facts. We've had your hilarious claims that you can channel the opinion of the entire population of London on the topic of race, then watched you ridicule the notion that issues like personal safety, law enforcement, hospital and medical services, public transport, traffic congestion, schools, public services, pollution and housing have any bearing on day-to-day life in a city, then change your mind and say that in fact YOU can speak with more authority on all these topics than any third-party organisation whose business is evaluating such things.

It's comical. Some baying half-witted racist loon writes something on a blog and many people here take it as Gospel. Give them extensive facts and figures from a proper source and, assuming they don't like what they're hearing, they'll tell you that the University of Uppsala, for example, are as much a part of the New World Order as all those climatologists who don't like oil companies. I think I saw one of them under your bed earlier. He'd cut the landline and was brandishing a chart.

Ah,I see what's happening here.

A - you equate economic success and material "convenience" to qaulity of life...How droll.How very modern of you.

B - You have chosen to uphold one "source" above all othersThat is your perogative,However....:


UK has lowest quality of life in Europe


UK has lowest quality of life in Europe | Business | ICM Commercial & Business News

You see,for every stat you profer I can find something to the contrary,Thats how stats work.Nature of the beast.

1,650 immigrants per day wrecking the quality of life in UK: Poll

1,650 immigrants per day wrecking the quality of life in UK: Poll

Low ranking for Britain’s quality of life

Low ranking for Britain?s quality of life - Chartered Quality Institute

Shall I go on? I can do this dance all day.

P.s.

The angry,spitting disdainful style you enjoy doesn't convey authority (I suspect u think it does) but rather ignorant desperation and impatience.

One more for larks:

Poll: Britain worse now than 20 years ago

Poll: Britain worse now than 20 years ago| News | This is London


Certainly my experience,not that such things count when one has "Statistics" from "proper" sources to wave about.

If you suspect that I have disdain for you, then you'd be right: I think throughout this discussion you've been wilfully stupid and dishonest. Is it possible that you seriously believe you're in a position to speak for the entire population of London with authority and accuracy, simply dismissing facts and figures that you don't like, because you lived there for fourteen years? Is it really credible that you think that factors like education, traffic, public transport, crime, personal safety, law enforcement, public services and sanitation have NO bearing on the day-to-day quality-of-life in a city? Are you a megalomaniac or an idiot? It's hard to say.

I give you a list of dozens of criteria by which these countries were assessed like health, gender equality, life expectancy, adult literacy, educational enrolment, political and media censorship, school quality and housing and you say- after I've re-iterated this point to you countless times- that I obviously "equate economic success and material "convenience" to qaulity of life...How droll.How very modern of you." Short answer: no, you dose. Read the bloody list.

And you've consistently misquoted and misrepresented my argument, claiming that I've said things that I never said and putting forward stupid boring clichés of your own fabrication that have nothing to do with me. I don't think you're doing all this because you're thick. I think you're doing it because you've been shown up over and over again in this discussion as not knowing what you're talking about. All that's left for you to do is to lie and misrepresent my very simple argument.

It's nice to see you linking to proper sources to support your argument. Unfortunately, you've made a couple of basic errors. The quality-of-life survey you cite only assesses ten European countries for starters and so it's not really fair to say that the "UK has lowest quality of life in Europe". Notwithstanding that, France, Spain, Germany, Holland and Sweden are all ethnically diverse countries that score higher than Britain, according to this survey.

You seem to have forgotten that the point I'm making is NOT that Britain is the best place to live in the world, but that when it comes to surveys like this, multi-ethnic countries always dominate the top of the lists. Your link backs that argument up.

The second survey you cite is topped by France, Australia, Switzerland and Germany, all countries with high levels of immigration and ethnically diverse. It's amazing, really. Given that there were 194 countries ranked on this survey, I don't think Britain's ranking of 20th is too bad but, hey, that's a subjective opinion.

I also would say that this one is a bit lightweight; on their website there's a lot of talk about camembert and paté and the cost of a cottage in the Dordogne. The Mercer's one I mentioned earlier focused more on serious things like housing, personal safety, medical services, education, transport... You know yourself.

Still, not bad for a first-timer. Keep on posting those links. The trick will be to find one that undoes the point I'm making, not that corroborates it. Good luck.

Or, in another way of presenting the same information, most people in Britain think life today is the same or better than it was twenty years ago.

HINT: I'm not arguing that Britain is the best place to live in the world. You need to go back and remind yourself what you're trying to do here.

...hope you didn't pay full price for that crystal ball......

Earlier you stated

Why is it unreported?