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Cannabis haul! This is a Joke, Wake Up Smell the Beans

This is a discussion on Cannabis haul! This is a Joke, Wake Up Smell the Beans within the Current Affairs forums, part of the General Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by merle haggard anything that allows a citizen to bypass dealer scum is obviously an improvement , but ...
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anything that allows a citizen to bypass dealer scum is obviously an improvement , but not anywhere near as big an improvement as just staying the feck away from drugs . However whats more likely is that enterprising stoners realise they can make a profit from thir surplus and become capitalist shark dealers themselves , or the dealers put them out of business and into hospital .
Personally im of the opinion growing a plant that god invented should not be illegal . Unless the plant is of the man eating variety you see in tarzan films . Or one of those GM jobs . However it is and the drugs trade itself carries some very negative connotations . People should realise they run very high risk of criminalising themselvesand its not really worth it . Best avoided .
In an ideal world people would not need drugs, in an ideal world Merle, but this world is far from ideal and dealing with the reality of it is the only way, people have and will take drugs, the vast majority will never have a problem with them, a minority as always will have problems and if it was not drugs it would be alcohol, prescribed medicines or gambling.

The hypocrisy of having laws that will never work and cost a fortune to try to make it look like there is something being done about drug use is primitive to say the least.
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If enough people are prepared to cultivate and accept fines then the authorities will soon realise that it cant be stopped.
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Id expect that the government would love this. They would just keep accepting the fines into their coffers and do nothing to change the law.
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If enough people are prepared to cultivate and accept fines then the authorities will soon realise that it cant be stopped.


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Id expect that the government would love this. They would just keep accepting the fines into their coffers and do nothing to change the law.

The cost of detecting the plants and prosecuting the growers will far outweigh any income from fines.
They will soon realise this and ammend policy accordingly as they have in the UK where now anyone caught with a small amount either recieves a caution or the cannabis just taken of them.
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anything that allows a citizen to bypass dealer scum is obviously an improvement , but not anywhere near as big an improvement as just staying the feck away from drugs . However whats more likely is that enterprising stoners realise they can make a profit from thir surplus and become capitalist shark dealers themselves , or the dealers put them out of business and into hospital .
Personally im of the opinion growing a plant that god invented should not be illegal . Unless the plant is of the man eating variety you see in tarzan films . Or one of those GM jobs . However it is and the drugs trade itself carries some very negative connotations . People should realise they run very high risk of criminalising themselvesand its not really worth it . Best avoided .
While I agree broadly with what you say here merle it is more likely in my experience that rather growers selling off excess in a capitalist fashion that they would form a small collective with their friends and so removing more people from the grasp of capitalist shark dealers.

People that are already using dealers are already running the risk of criminalising themselves.
Better to be criminalised for having a plant than for funding a lavish lifestyle for those that sell muck and care little for who they sell to.
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I have been keeping a close on the marijuana legalization bill in the California Assembly. Oh how I wish we had such reasonable debates in this Country.

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I have been keeping a close on the marijuana legalization bill in the California Assembly. Oh how I wish we had such reasonable debates in this Country.

YouTube - Judge Testifies for Marijuana Legalization in California
wish away my friend but you cannot get a reasonable debate from terminally unreasonable
cannabis prohibitionists...

Anti-drugs lobby condemns party for legalisation debate - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie
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There was a legalise cannabis debate on 28th of October 2009 at UCC...

Cllr. Luke 'Ming' Flanagan - Cannabis Debate - Monday 28th Oct 2009, uccphil on USTREAM. Politics
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