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UK Admit immigraton figures are wrong. Are we wrong too?

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Fantastic question, and it's about time our own government revisited their own fatally flawed figures and established a genuine global figure for immigration so at least we could then embark on an informed debate in this country.
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Of course it is. There is no effective control being exercised by our government over our borders. Any schmuck can get in here and do what he/she likes.
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Now considering the CSO compile figures in a similar way could Ireland also be under counting the True figures of immigration in Ireland.
No, that doesnt follow. What the DWP did incorrectly was to inadvertently ommit certain categories from their analysis of the Labour Force Survey datasets. It had nothing to do with methodology or the way figures were collected. Hence there is no reason at all that CSO figures would suffer from the same error.
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Shows up the propaganda on this issue.
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I'm not sure what the issue is as what the claim is that there are now 1 million foreigners in the UK labour market paying tax.
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Shows up the propaganda on this issue.
It does? What propaganda? How is it shown up? You suspect it was something more than a mistake by a middle-ranking statistician / database analyst in the UK civil service?
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Of course it is. There is no effective control being exercised by our government over our borders. Any schmuck can get in here and do what he/she likes.
Especially over the border between the 6 and the 26. At present, anyone who enters the north can just toddle over the border into the south. No controls, no checks, nothing. The same can happen in reverse.
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The Labour Goverment had been known in the Past to boast about Job creation since it came to power in 1997. It questions on how many of the 2.7m jobs created since Labour came to power in 1997 have gone to British workers.
If the jobs were created any more than a few months ago, common sense to me would suggest that the jobs are likely to have been passed through a pool of different workers - as people resign, new people get hired etc. Such jobs more than likely at some stage will have been taken up by British workers, evidence from Irish statistics usually do suggest that the higher paid and higher skilled jobs still tend to go to Irish people, while lower paid/skilled work is likely to go to migrant workers (as perceived to be unattractive to the natives, or in the case of Ireland, will result in a lower net income than social welfare).

So its quite likely that at least some point, most of, if not all, of these jobs were occupied by a British citizen at some point.

That of course doesn't take into account that many jobs created may have ceased to exist since.
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yes is there anyone who thinks our figures are not wrong?
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