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Death of Tomás Mac Giolla

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Yes factual and that is all very well at a personal level

- but you do know that he and his Party were your bitter (and sometimes bloody) enemies for decades?

PSF have pretty well adopted (or at least pay lip service to) nearly all that he advocated?

Why then didn't you listen to him back in 1969 and save yourselves (and others)all that bother B4 ending up in the same boat?
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I doubt it. Turning guns on former comrades, approving of touting to the occupation forces, adopting un-digested the characture of socialism made by the Soviet hierarchs, abandoning the national liberation struggle to the provos...The list could go on and on.
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He didnt create the spilt (the spilt was over absentionism which the Provies dropped anyway in 1986 and the Official IRA remained both bigger than the Provos and engaged fighting the Brits for a few years after...) and he always believed in Irish national liberation (though he had a strange way of showing it).

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forth | 1969 and all that

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The IRA split in December 1969 and Sinn Féin a month later. The December 1969 split saw the formation of a ‘provisional’ army council of the IRA, from which the name the ‘Provisional IRA’ would eventually emerge. In response, the other wing began referring to itself as the Official IRA.

So far, so what? Well, in an interview published today in the Irish Daily Mail, Mac Giolla claimed that the split was a result of the intervention of just one man: Seamus Costello. Costello, who was part of the left-leaning reformist group would later himself walk out and form the Irish Republican Socialist Party and its military wing, the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) which, it was reported today, has now disarmed. (1)

According to Mac Giolla, in the interview conducted by Jason O’Toole, the IRA was ready to postpone its support for the various parliaments in order to avert a damaging split.

“We had ensured that the split didn’t occur on the vote to enter Leinster House and Westminster parliaments. If [Ruairí] Ó Brádaigh didn’t win that vote they were all ready to walk out. Let’s put it this way, Ó Brádaigh was allowed to win that vote. We ensured they didn’t lose the vote to make sure there was no walk-out. But as soon as that was over, Seamus Costello called for a motion of no confidence in the IRA and Ó Brádaigh stood up and they all walked out. That’s what Costello did to ensure the split.” (2)
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why is it these drug dealing thugs of the never worked party think that Ireland owes them some form of legacy or respect....

the workers party was and still are a pack of gangsters based around three drinking dens in Belfast...

People in Belfast the real democrats who stood against ALL violence even violence from their armed wing the official IRA, remember Downpatrick last year....

Know that this is a vile collection of individuals whose leadership was under the control of the British security services..
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The man was a much loved legend,and on a human level was great craic ,loved his few pints and a good story and who will forget his renditions of Robisons OLD MAN RIVER .
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why is it these drug dealing thugs of the never worked party think that Ireland owes them some form of legacy or respect....

the workers party was and still are a pack of gangsters based around three drinking dens in Belfast...

People in Belfast the real democrats who stood against ALL violence even violence from their armed wing the official IRA, remember Downpatrick last year....

Know that this is a vile collection of individuals whose leadership was under the control of the British security services..
I'm surprised it took the premier anti-WP troll so long to turn up and try and derail a thread for respecting the dead. Although at least the funeral has hapened. Pathetic. And as usual, our friend is claiming knowledge on the ground and proving only ignorance. That shooting in Downpatrick was the crowd calling themselves the ORM and OIRA, but Brasco read in the Irish News it was the OIRA and like pavlov's dog started slavering against The WP. In comparsion to the subject of this thread, we can see only the extent to which this troll is in fact a political and moral pgymy.

Tomás Mac Giolla was a visionary and a hero. He helped lead people away from violence, and build a strong socialist voice in Irish politics. He exposed the corruption of Fianna Fáil and it was as a result of his actions that the beef tribunal was launched. A great man, and a great loss.
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Brasco, that's brass neck coming from someone who supports a party with fascist origins.

Mac Giolla suddenly seems to be even more dangerous to the far right in death than he was in life.
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why is it these drug dealing thugs of the never worked party think that Ireland owes them some form of legacy or respect....

the workers party was and still are a pack of gangsters based around three drinking dens in Belfast...

People in Belfast the real democrats who stood against ALL violence even violence from their armed wing the official IRA, remember Downpatrick last year....

Know that this is a vile collection of individuals whose leadership was under the control of the British security services..

Yes, vey true, the same thing was said about Collins when he gasve in to Lyod George without telling Dev,I suppose history does repeat itself
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