The anti-mpac thread

[Garland Names the Planets]

As many would be aware the website mpac.ie has been spamming this site with threads advertising the latest ramblings of a man called Liam Egan formerly known in these parts as "Mujaahid" until he was banned just over a year ago. Since then numerous trolls were either sent here by him.his associate(s) or his site attracted a sufficient number of idiots to start innumerable threads linking his latest articles from either his mpac.ie site or Metro Eireann where he has recently found employment. He represents a fundamentalist Wahhabist fringe of Islam, popular in Saudi Arabia, and has furthermore been evasive on questions as to where or from who he get's his funding from when asked.

I am not as many would know sympathetic to any strand of Islam or any other religion but there are people in our society who identify as Muslims but have no truck with this outfit and indeed want to actively oppose it. To that end a blog has been established by moderate Muslims where this nonsense can be countered.
An Irish Muslim Response To MPACIE

I'm creating this one thread on this and no more at their request. This isn't a spam war. But if the mpac trolls can't be prevented from doing what they are doing here there can be one thread where their nonsense can be opposed. I've kept the title of the thread generic to that end so all of it can be done here.

[muzzylogik]

Let me get the ball rolling then:

RTÉ WOULD welcome burqa clad participants on its religious shows, the station’s head of religious programming has said. Roger Childs, who oversees the station’s religious programming on both TV and radio, told Metro Éireann that Muslim women who wear the burqa – which covers the entire body except the hands and eyes – regard the garment as “part of who they are”, and a media platform would promote a “greater understanding” of why they wear it.

The editor, who previously made a film on a burqa-wearing woman for the BBC, added that such participants should not be limited to speaking about their religious wear, but on general topics affecting Irish society.

BURQA WEARERS WELCOME – RTÉ RELIGIOUS CHIEF|MPAC.ie

[zippo222]

Originally Posted by muzzylogik

Let me get the ball rolling then:


BURQA WEARERS WELCOME – RTÉ RELIGIOUS CHIEF|MPAC.ie

Are you trying to get Beverley a job ?. You do know that it will affect your Social Welfare benefits don't you ?

[Christine Murray]

Funnily enough , the second post on this thread :

The anti-mpac thread

had appeared as an OP and was rightfully removed, it offered nothing save the usual spam
and provocation which the author (Muzzylogic) quite clearly sets out to do rather than engaging
in any meaningful type of discussion. What concerns me is that Metro Eireann will lose
customers because of the connection to a site that links quite clearly to incitement/provocation :

185 Charges of Rape – Why Ireland needs Shariah|MPAC.ie*
Uncovered Meat and Walking Prisons|MPAC.ie

natty little crucifixion image in the top right btw, the issue in that ^ rape case* is quite
clearly both sub-judicie and a question of adequate child protection laws not
public crucifixion BUT sure metro eireann seem happy enough with the situation -

(The fact that the government has consistently avoided the child protection laws since 2006
whilst instituting blasphemy laws is for another thread.)

[oceanclub]

Reminds me of the Facebook conversation with an RTE producer recently where I asked her why RTE keep choosing Liam to appear on programs as a typical Muslim. I particularly mentioned the documentary about Liam's daughter and the hijab. She said the reason to make the documentary was because of the "controversy". I pointed out there was no "controversy" except that engineered by this fundamentalist in order to create divisions between the average Irish muslim and others.

Wearing a hijab hadn't been an issue for this girl at the school, but Liam still went ahead and asking for a meeting anyway, no doubt hoping that the school would deny the request and give him the publicity he delights in.

When the school said it was fine, and instead the government decided to leave it as a matter for schools, Egan then appeared on Al Jazeera TV to say the government was "oppressing minorities".

He has also been invited onto other programmes on the station to give the Muslim point of view. Despite the fact he has absolutely no authority to speak for other Muslims. I mean, mpac.ie has a grand total of _13_ forum members, several of whom are actually anti-MPAC!

P.

[Clanrickard]

Originally Posted by oceanclub

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He has also been invited onto other programmes on the station to give the Muslim point of view. Despite the fact he has absolutely no authority to speak for other Muslims. I mean, mpac.ie has a grand total of _13_ forum members, several of whom are actually anti-MPAC!

P.

I am one of them and I assure you I am anti-MPAC.

[FriarMo]

The comment by Muzzylogic typifies the whole MPACIE mentality of provocation, division and outrage. It is no wonder that some people mistakenly thought they were BNP operatives trying to stir up anti-Muslim hatred.

Stating that Liam ‘Mujaahid’ Egan has some sort of legitimacy in speaking for Muslims in Ireland because he is Irish born is a fallacy as his allegiance is to what he has called “Our Illustrious King Abdulla” of Saudi Arabia “God Save the King” would an Irishman with an ounce of patriotism say that?!? He has spent decades out of the country being indoctrinated by fundamentalists outside of Ireland including fundamentalist mosques in the UK and has gone on what he considers a “Hijra” or holy immigration to Yemen and Saudi Arabia where he spent years learning his trade as a Wahhabi propagandist.

The ideology he is trying to promote here in Ireland since his return from Saudi Arabia only a little over 2 years ago is an insidious and invasive attempt by the Salafis/Wahhabis to create a foothold in Ireland as they have done so successfully in the UK with disastrous results. The vast majority of those who have carried out terrorists atrocities ascribe to Salafism/Wahhabism such as the shoe bomber Richard Reid who attended the same mosque Egan went to in the UK.