Seeing the Dark

[paulp]

Originally Posted by The Underdog

And now the light of pride and vanity shines out of your arse like a shiny beacon to guide us to the dark (one). Keep taking the pills Maurice.

you have to understand that he's a fundamentalist

[MauriceColgan]

Originally Posted by Catalpa

Maurice

- are you trying to tell us that Elvis really really is like

- DEAD?

Catalpa, the Concert below will be at the O2 in Dublin in March.



Yep, Elvis is deadly.

[Half Nelson]

Originally Posted by MauriceColgan

I'm fine thank you.

I guess seeing the dark is the acceptance that we die permanently and there is nothing more as far as we as a mind are concerned.

I'm fascinated by the fact that those of us seeing the dark cannot seem to dim the light of those unfortunately still trapped in it like rabbits in car headlights.

A belief that death is the end presents more questions than answers - answers that I have yet to hear such a believer even attempt to address without using ideas and terminology rooted in belief in the hereafter. Terms like 'love', 'living on in our hearts', 'sacrifice' etc. are cowpoop in that context.
In short, everything is ultimately worthless if death is the end - nature has fooked up and we are the most pathetic of creatures.

Luckily for us, that's not the case.

The entire atheist movement is still riding the coattails of believers.

[MauriceColgan]

Originally Posted by Foghorn

How very apt......seeing the Dark. In fact you can't "see the Dark" at all. Darkness is an absence of light, it is not something of itself, but rather an absence, an emptiness.

Seems very appropriate that Atheism wants us to "see the Dark" when in fact there is nothing to be seen, a false premise if you will. And certainly nothing to offer, emptiness & absence rather than something of itself.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

I was once talking to a blind man and after explaining a painting I was working on, the guy said, I see what you mean, Maurice.

Foghorn, Vision is more than you may comprehend. Obviously.

[paulp]

outside of the darkness, there is half light and the light

In the light, you have contentment
In the dark, you have contentment
In the half light, confusion and dissatisfaction abounds

Some in the half light, in their confusion convince themselves that they are either in the light or dark, but to bury this conflict inside, adopt a fundamentalist position

[MauriceColgan]

Originally Posted by Half Nelson

A belief that death is the end presents more questions than answers - answers that I have yet to hear such a believer even attempt to address without using ideas and terminology rooted in belief in the hereafter. Terms like 'love', 'living on in our hearts', 'sacrifice' etc. are cowpoop in that context.
In short, everything is ultimately worthless if death is the end - nature has fooked up and we are the most pathetic of creatures.

Luckily for us, that's not the case.

The entire atheist movement is still riding the coattails of believers.

Are you really so naive?

We enjoy what we have when alive. That is all we will ever experience. My grandchildren know that, and still they practice their musical instruments.

A woman my age (68 next week) said to me today in the Beaumont hospital the only thing certain is we will not die young.

[Half Nelson]

Originally Posted by MauriceColgan

Are you really so naive?

We enjoy what we have when alive. That is all we will ever experience. My grandchildren know that, and still they practice their musical instruments.

A woman my age (68 next week) said to me today in the Beaumont hospital the only thing certain is we will not die young.

Drop the soundbites Maurice. I respect your beliefs or lack of them but, by its own standards of reason and logic alone atheism has failed dismally to give an account of itself. All we know for sure is that it sneers at the faith of believers, boasts in its rejection of a Creator and borrows from religious apologetics when cornered. We know what it's not, but what is it?

It's time that atheism was asked for an account of itself or, as St. Peter said:

“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have…”

or not.

[Foghorn]

Originally Posted by MauriceColgan

I was once talking to a blind man and after explaining a painting I was working on, the guy said, I see what you mean, Maurice.

Foghorn, Vision is more than you may comprehend. Obviously.

Do you suppose he was being funny!

[MauriceColgan]

Originally Posted by Half Nelson

Drop the soundbites Maurice. I respect your beliefs or lack of them but, by its own standards of reason and logic alone atheism has failed dismally to give an account of itself. All we know for sure is that it sneers at the faith of believers, boasts in its rejection of a Creator and borrows from religious apologetics when cornered. We know what it's not, but what is it?

It's time that atheism was asked for an account of itself or, as St. Peter said: or not.

Why would we atheists need to sneer?

I just wonder why any adult witnessing the modern age and all we now know of the Cosmos would still cling to the centuries old writings of very primitive people.

Surely the silly gods of the past could easily be improved on by modern scholars?

Science fiction robots have evolved faster.

[MauriceColgan]

Originally Posted by Foghorn

Do you suppose he was being funny!

Possibly.

But he was crying at the time.

He had suddenly become blind after a lifetime (60 years) of sight.