MPAC.IE - who are they?

[liamfoley]

Originally Posted by politicsiscomedy

They may be nobodies but does someone need to keep an eye on them? I too was wondering who they were and where they came from, as they seemed to be all over the place, all of a sudden. Or am I jsut being silly.

There are people keeping eyes on them, even if that watch is uncoordinated.I was talking to someone I know who has had reason to cross swords with some of these guys in the past and maintain an interest in how they function. I have Muslim friends who will not have anything to do with the MPAC radicals. MPAC is not representative of Muslims in Ireland.

[Trampas]

Originally Posted by liamfoley

MPAC is not representative of Muslims in Ireland.

I am happy to accept that. The key question for me is whether MPAC will be represent the views of their children and grandchildren.

[rbrbrb]

I'd like to point out that on the Guest Post: Mr Nugent thread Mujaahid has refused to post my comments I made after his last point. Basically I said he has admitted defeat in a childish manner and that I clearly hit a raw nerve. I invite anybody to read the thread and see how a fundamentalist tries to argue on evolution.

[Clanrickard]

Originally Posted by muzzylogik

As for me, this will be my last post for a few months - business trip tomorrow.

Say hi to Mullah Omar for me will ya?

[rbrbrb]

It seems now none of my posts are being accepted on MPACIE. Mujaahid has had his faith shaken after his pathetic attempt to argue against evolution.

[FriarMo]

Originally Posted by muzzylogik

But why is Friar Mo (Mohammad Al Kabour) not answering those questions?

[Along with the rejection of aspects of the hudood, might we ask Kabour if he also rejects the following:

1. The belief that there is no other religion acceptable to Allah except Al Islam
2. That those who willfully reject Islam are destined to the hellfire wherein they will suffer torment without respite
3. That Allah promised the dominion of Islam to His Messenger and that Islam will one day dominate the world]

I'll tell you why, if he agrees he is exposing his lack of moderation and will loose associates and if he disagrees he has exposed his disbelief - in which case he will lose any Muslims that have been fooled by him. It's a lose/lose scenario and that's why he won't answer.

As for me, this will be my last post for a few months - business trip tomorrow.

Despite my better judgment not to be goaded by the MPACIE thugs I will not give them the satisfaction of accusing me of evading questions even after I was censored and blocked from their website. Even after my posts that were previously published were removed and replaced with the absurd “(Removed – we will not give oxygen to those who accept some of Allah’s book and reject the rest)” and even after I was threatened by a fatwa and asked questions aimed at intimidating me into fearing arrest by the Saudi authorities and religious police.

Perversely most of the questions I posed to MPACIE more than 3 months ago regarding the nature of the organization, its membership and its funding were left unanswered or the response was an outright lie.

Your refusal to answer Egan says volumes.


A1-I do not claim that my own beliefs and interpretations have a monopoly on the truth, nor do I accept the supremacist ideology of Wahhabism that you follow. To paraphrase, having an open and questioning mind is not the opposite of faith it is an element of faith. I do not share the blind certainty that you have from having a closed mind.


A2-No I do not believe that all who reject Islam are bound for hellfire.


A3- No I do not believe that Islam will subdue all others or that it should. I certainly would not want your extremist interpretation to spread to any extent and in fact would stand side by side with all rational freedom loving people who resist your efforts.


I will not further engage in discourse with an “organization” that takes its cues from a totalitarian regime and use repressive and dishonest tactics.

MPACIE is a stain on the Irish Muslim community and a poisonous cancer.

Mohammed AlKabour

[oceanclub]

Yesterday, MPAC crossed over what I consider a boundary from being merely quacks. They posted an article entitled "They only wish to deceive us":

They Only Wish to Deceive Us|MPAC.ie

The article contains an image to an organization known as the Muslim Defence Force:



The article takes it title from two Youtube videos embedded in it - videos of speeches by this man:

Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anwar al-Awlaki (also spelled Aulaqi; Arabic: أنور العولقي Anwar al-‘Awlaqī; born April 22, 1971 (1971-04-22) (age 38) in Las Cruces, New Mexico)[3][4][5][6] is a Muslim lecturer, spiritual leader, and former imam believed to be a senior talent recruiter and motivator "for al-Qaeda and all of its franchises." With a blog and a Facebook page, he has been described as the "bin Laden of the internet."In 2009, he reportedly was promoted to the rank of regional commander within al-Qaeda.

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[cyberianpan]

Originally Posted by oceanclub

Yesterday, MPAC crossed over what I consider a boundary from being merely quacks. They posted an article entitled "They only wish to deceive us":


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They crossed a line long back for me. There's only one of them, though he does get a little confused about that at times. MPAC.IE still post here:

Originally Posted by cyberianpan

Are you referring to your new name or to your previous incarnation of Antiphon ? Because Antiphon spammed this site for months with every MPAC.IE press release (and you were banned then and after 3 days set up this new account)

Also Antiphon - would you care to point us towards just where you came across MPAC.IE on this website... I'm a little puzzled as on only your 3rd thread here you were quoting Muj (banned over a year by then)& MPAC.IE... mere days after you joined

And your talk of "moderation" takes the biscuit - You promulgate an ultra Wahhabist version of Sharia law, sympathise with terrorists and there isn't a fig leaf between you and Al-Qaeda/The old Taliban

cYp

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['orebel]

Nobodys who thrive on this kind of attention

[cyberianpan]

Originally Posted by 'orebel

Nobodys who thrive on this kind of attention

They use sites such as this to trawl for recruits

cYp