27th September 2009
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Originally Posted by SevenStars  Uh...I believe that song was Crass's rejection of pacifism? | One song is not enough. But here’s Penny Rimbaud from much later… Crass seemed, at times, to confuse politically and in other ways. Why do you think this was? Certainly, towards the end we thought, we’ve done the records, the gigs and the label, we had then started directly promoting things like ‘Stop The City’. Where do you go from there? Do you start blowing things up?" And do you? "Well, we looked at all these possibilities but in the end — and the failure of the miners’ strike helped us realise this — you can do a load of direct action but so what? You end up hurting people. The media prints what it wants even if it can get the information and the system remains intact." By this time you were not pacifist, obviously? "It started with the Falklands. A lot of people were pacifist when there was nothing to be pacifist about but afterwards we came out of it certainly more dedicated to direct action — such as ‘Stop The City’ and promoting sabotage and violence to property, which many pacifists would disagree with. We even considered, then, use of controlled violence, whatever that is, against people who wouldn’t get out of the way. It’s not far from that that you say ‘blast the bastards’ and you lose your own sense of direction." http://www.uncarved.org/music/apunk/offbeat.html Hardly an unequivocal position, would you say ? Earlier… Perry Rimbaud… the hippy movement's influence on Crass. http://www.1969histoiresdeparfums.com/blog/tag/pacifism-flower-power/ An interesting discussion on class analysis, whether or not Crass perhaps ignored class politics, their pacifist strain as a rejection of glib romanticisation of violence… http://www.southern.com/southern/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1432 1979, Crass reject left-wing anti-Fascist violence… http://bashtherichfilm.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/crass-conway-hall-mr-lux/
1979, the centrality of ''Anarchy and Peace'', in Crass http://www.swanseapunk.co.uk/page3.html And let’s not forget that Marx fvcks. http://www.songlyrics.com/crass/sucks-lyrics/
Luckily for us though, you have all the answers.
Last edited by the impossibilist; 27th September 2009 at 01:31 PM.
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