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Old 11th August 2009
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Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
Sparkey
What about the facts that you don't want to deal with, I quoted you a figure of €700 million last week as a the figure for gas subsidy in Ireland, and your only comment is to say that in some perverse way that this a subsidy for wind, this is paid to the owners of gas power stations, not to wind farms. You have yet to reply to the queries I posted on the future availability of gas at reasonable prices.
Those plants were commissioned and built with one purpose. As a back up to wind generation. They can only supply power when the wind generation capacity drops off. They Are a back up only and as such cannot compete on an open market.

No company in their right mind would build a plant under those conditions. So these plants built to back up wind had to be subsidised, not by the wind power producers but by the taxpayer.

The entire ridiculous scheme is their for one purpose and one purpose only. To back up wind power. So yes it is a subsidy for wind not gas.

There are many many gas plants in Ireland that are allowed to compete on the open market with no subsidy and generate a profit so claiming gas generation is subsidised is nonsense.

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Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
You might notice that I no longer reply defensively to your comments on wind, this is because the research is all coming together at S of I, and I am very confident that a very respectable business case will be presented in mid September.
I look forward to finally getting some actual defined verifiable costings, and figures but based on past experience with SOI I will not hold my breath.
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