If it wasn't for Libertas and similar groups Lisbon would have been voted through and Ireland would have gotten a very bad deal losing our permanent commissioner as well as other issues of soverignty which our great mainsteam parties were only too willing to sign away at the prospect of getting their snouts in the EU trough.

Do we not all owe Libertas then a debt of gratitude for saving our permanet commissioner?

Sometimes you get tired of the way our traditional political parties give in to the dictates of the EU without putting up any fight.

Does anyone seriously believe that FF for example represents Irish people well or serves the Irish people? Would we not be better off voting for any alternative than FF.